5.13.2010

Is this cheating?



The Colorado Rockies allege that Phillies bullpen coach Mick Billmeyer used binoculars to steal signs from catcher Miguel Olivo during Monday night's game, which proved to be a 9-5 win for Philadelphia.

Now, everyone knows that sign stealing happens. And it's one thing for players to use their own wits and their own eyeballs to "steal" the catcher's signs to the pitcher. But what if tools and coaches are employed? Is that far more cheaty?

Not that this proves anything, but MLB has issued a "warning" to the Phillies.

11 comments:

Johngy said...

I have lost focus on what cheating is on every front these days in sports. Still, I always wonder about the 'cheating' as told in baseball lore versus the cheating you described. Gaylord Perry might have cheated for years and that is now feel-good baseball history.

Roy said...

Stealing signs is part of the game. However, organized sign stealing as a strategy is, as I am sure everyone has heard the phrase; "Bush League."

There's a difference between this, using binocs and relaying it to the dugout, and the "tactics" which are ok.

It's a teams own fault when their signs are easy to steal, but I do not believe this is the case in COL/PHI.

I really have not come to a conclusion in the comment, and for that I apologize, but hopefully my opinion got across somewhat.

Ryan aka Orioles Magic said...

Congrats go out to Mick, who was unknown earlier this week and is now the Phillies "villian". Mets fans, take note!

dayf said...

Oh please, that's just good old fashioned beaver shootin'. Leave it to an expansion team to be unaware of time honored baseball traditions.

maine mariner said...

Definitely poor judgment regardless.

I just find it hard to believe that any team would do that so brazenly. He wasn't exactly hiding it now was he.

I read online earlier that either last year or during the 2007 playoffs a Colorado reliever doused himself with water before coming into a game? Could that be viewed as possibly crossing the line? Either way I don't want to see a pair of binoculars in the Phils bullpen ever again.

Its nice to see that Joe Madden chimed in and said he didn't think it amounted to much considering he knows Billmeyer personally.

Anonymous said...

Good point about Gaylord Perry. Is the Bobby Thomson story accepted as fact? If so, it hasn't diminished the Legendary Shot.

dogfacedgremlin said...

As long as he wasn't doing it while sleeping and on steroids, I think it is okay.

night owl said...

I'm with dayf. How do we know he was trying to steal signs?

dc said...

N.O., I dunno, as a rule, it just seems wise for coaches sitting in bullpens maybe not to whip out the Bushnells? so to speak

Bo said...

Maybe a Rockies fan will sue the Phillies, like the Jets fan who is suing Belichek over taping the Jets practice.

Anonymous said...

Three things come to mind...

1) Can't really call it cheating especially if the TV also shows the signs from center field during their broadcast.

2) How do we know he was looking at that...

3) What amazes me is that someone will make any possible excuse for their team's losing / lack of ability OR negate their opponents victory... No excuses, besides "theres no crying in baseball"

Coach Cantu

Bottom line ladies and gentlemen... baseball is about hitting, fielding, throwing running and scoring more points than the other team... if you can't YOU LOSE.